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Pete Tries Baluns on the DBM


A couple of weeks ago I ran a post about an old 73 Magazine article that extolled the virtues of putting baluns at the RF input and IF output of diode ring mixers.   Dedicated experimenter that he is, Pete Juliano gave it a try: 


Hi Bill,
I did the modification and used 20 bifilar turns of #26 on a FT-50-43 core for each transformer.
The most important observation is that I did not see any degradation of performance and in fact I think has helped an overloading situation I was seeing on some extremely strong signals.
The photo is of a DBM that is behind a bilateral stage that on Rx is the RF amplifier and on Tx is the Tx pre-driver. I do have another single transistor RF amp ahead of this. In normal operation the next stage would be the Band Pass Filter.
The back end is an IF amplifier, AGC, Product Detector, balanced modulator and mic amp stage all on a board that came out of a Hallicrafters FPM-300 SSB/CW transceiver. There is a you tube video of this prototype project.
73’s
Pete N6QW 

Thanks Pete! 

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Building a Better Diode Ring Balanced Modulator (with Knack Karma)



So yesterday Pete and I were talking about Dave W2DAB's Michigan Mighty Mite malady. Dave is tantalizingly close to the joy of oscillation.  Wizard that he is, I think Pete diagnosed the problem with his eyes closed from 3000 miles away.  I sent Dr. Juliano's prescription to Dave this morning and expect the concrete canyons of Upper Manhattan to be ringing with pure 800 Hz tones as soon as Dave fires up his soldering iron. 

Anyway, I then told Pete that I'd been looking through my bookshelf for something suitable for my 11 year-old nephew Sebastian.  I found something for him, but I also came across a book that was too advanced for the young fellow:   "The Master Handbook of Ham Radio Circuits." TAB Books, 1977.  By "The Editors of 73 Magazine."   Between turkey sandwiches I started looking through this book.  I immmediately found an article of interest:  "A Better Balanced Modulator."   The author (unnamed) looks closely at the performance of our beloved and much-used diode ring mixer with dual trifilar transformers.  He concludes that the unbalanced input and output coils (in the traditional configuration) detracts from the balance needed for optimum carrier suppression.  He suggest the use of baluns at input and output (see above) and claims significant improvement in carrier suppression.   Very interesting. (If anyone wants to dig into this, e-mail me.)  There is also a very simple solid-state VFO circuit that promises phenomenal stability.   

Anyway,  I found myself trying to remember where this great book came from.  Then I remembered someone sending it to me.  A quick check of my e-mail revealed the source:  Dave W2DAB sent it to me three years ago.  Thanks again Dave!  


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Pete's Mixer (Pictures)


Hi Guys,
 
Just finished building the PD/BM that will be used in the final circuit of the LBS Part I. I will also upload a video of the build.
 
The W1REX MeSquares really work very well and greatly facilitate the build. So the newbie builder -- will have one leg up by using the squares method.
 
73’s
Pete N6QW





Pete's video on this circuit appears below -- just scroll down a few. 

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Pete Builds a Doubly Balanced Modulator (Video -- Part 3)



Another beautiful piece of cinema from Giovanni Manzoni's Newbury Park Studios.  Bravo Giovanni! 

Pete is obviously a doubly balanced kind of guy.   I liked his use of the W1REX MePads and the breadboard.  Also, the balance pot and the un-balance switch are very handy innovations. 
Most of all I like the way Pete's video takes you from schematic to actual circuit.  

Thanks Pete! 

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Homebrew Double Balanced Mixers by Pete Juiano (Part II) Video



Another great video from Pete.  I like the unbalancing mod -- I hate having to whistle into the mic!

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Pete's Homebrew Double Balanced Mixer Video (Part 1)

Another great video from the famed Italian Director Giovanni Manzoni!  Bravo Giovanni! 

Pete's discussion of double balanced mixers and the associated toroids has made me feel uneasy about my efforts in this area.  I wonder if my diodes were completely matched.  And I KNOW that my toroids are not as well done as Pete's.  

I recently put an SBL-1 into my old, long-evolving 20 meter ceramic resonator DSB rig. Careful with those nice little boxes! A bit too much juice and you can fry the little internal toroids (as I have done!). 

A while back I found in an RSGB Handbook a nice diagram showing how the diode ring mixer does its thing: 


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Sines, Squares, Harmonics, 'Scopes, FFTs, and Sounds



Bil Herd of Hackaday did a very nice video on Sine Waves, Square Waves and FFTs.  This is, of course, an important part of understanding how mixers mix.   I look forward to his upcoming video on Direct Digital Synthesis.  

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Alan Wolke Looks at Diode Ring Mixers



Bill,   I remember in your Soldersmoke book that you had difficulty for a long time trying to understand how a mixer created the sum and difference frequencies, and how this was accomplished in a diode ring mixer.  I know that you've got it all sorted out now, but I thought this was a good topic for a video anyway.  

Here's my video on the subject:

73,
Alan


Alan:  Thanks.  Great stuff. Yea, I've been looking at the innards of mixers for a long time. In my book, I try to explain how I have come to understand the physics of the mixing action -- how the use of a non-linear element causes two signals to "multiply" and how this "multiplication" results in sum and difference frequencies.  I tried to go beyond the trig functions because for me the trig didn't really explain anything. 

In the book I was looking at the classic two diode mixer (beloved of Doug DeMaw!).  A few years later, on the blog, I was looking at the action of the diode ring.  I concluded that there is a big difference between how the diode ring works and how the two diode mixer works.    RSGB provided a great diagram: 



73   Bill 

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I guess one way of describing the difference between a two diode mixer and a diode ring would be to say that the more simple mixer multiplies the signal by 0 and 1 (if it is operating in "switching mode), while the diode ring multiplies by 1 and -1.   




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Herring Aid: It was NOT the dots! Rotational Sense and Phasing


Opposite "sense" winding and resulting phase shift


My second attempt at building a Herring Aid 5 (the first was 1976) continues. 

I thought I had discovered an error in the schematic that (I hoped) explained my failure to get this simple receiver running (scroll down for details).  But Dex, ZL2DEX,  in New Zealand spotted something that got QST off the hook and put all the blame back on me:

I had failed to check the rotational sense of the windings.  The schematic called for 4 turns over the Radio Shack choke.  So I just went ahead and wound them.  I didn't pay any attention to the direction of the winding.  I then hooked it up in accordance with the phasing dots in the diagram.  And it didn't work.  So I switched the coil connections around.  And it worked.  Aha! I thought! QST messed up!  It wasn't my fault. 

Dex brought me back to reality.  He noted that I probably wound the coils with the wrong rotational sense.   I confirmed this.  I rewound the coil following the rotational sense of the choke.  I hooked it up following the phasing dots of the schematic.  This time the oscillator started right up.  So the problem wasn't an incorrect drawing of the phasing dots.  Instead it was my failure to remember that phasing is more than just the top or the bottom of a transformer's winding.  Rotational sense is also important.  That's why "phasing dots" are sometimes referred to as "sense dots."

This doesn't come up very often, because most of the toroidal transformers we make are bifilar or trifilar -- the windings are always in the correct sense because we twist the wires together before putting them on the coil.  When we look at those phasing dots, we are focused on getting the proper tops of coils connected to the appropriate bottoms of other windings.  We don't pay any attention to the sense of the windings.  Thanks to Dex for bringing me back to my senses :-o

Grob's Basic Electronics has this definition for those phasing dots:
 "Used on transformer windings to identify those leads having the same instantaneous polarity."

This morning I did a little experiment to confirm all this:  I took a toroidal core and wound a little transformer.  Using a dual trace scope, I looked at the input and output wave forms.  Sure enough, when the windings are in the same rotational sense, there is no phase shift.   But when that secondary is wound in the opposite sense, you get a 180 degree phase shift.  I know this is very basic, but it was fun to re-learn it and to confirm is.

But I still don't have the little receiver running.  I think there are a few problems.  That single BJT mixer stage needs a lot of RF (2.5 volts p-p) from the oscillator.   Also, I think the 10 uH chokes that I am using are not the same as the chokes used in the original Herring Aid design.  So when I build transformers on these chokes, they don't work very well.

But I will keep at it.  It has been 38 years... I can wait another week or two.   

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